#1 Secret On Making More Money by Switching Jobs

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**Stefanie Sword-Williams** (0:30)
Confidence isn't just about repeating something and doing it over and over again. It is about your capacity.

**Dr Faye Bate** (0:36)
Today's guest moved jobs six times in seven years, every single time getting a promotion.

**Stefanie Sword-Williams** (0:42)
I think introverts are better at networking than extroverts are. If you want to earn more year on year, you need to move jobs regularly.

**Dr Faye Bate** (0:49)
She then built a community around backing yourself and has written two bestselling books and has helped thousands of women.

**Stefanie Sword-Williams** (0:56)
One of the things that I always struggle with is I experience a really toxic first job.

**Dr Faye Bate** (1:02)
Stephanie Sword-Williams is the founder of Fuck Being Humble, and she's here to talk ambition, self-promotion, and why feeling like fraud doesn't have to stop you.

**Stefanie Sword-Williams** (1:10)
Your self-worth isn't derived from work.

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**Stefanie Sword-Williams** (1:30)
I'm Stefanie Sword-Williams and this is Her Discussions podcast.

**Dr Faye Bate** (1:33)
Stef, we are going to come on to being confident and self-promotion. But first, I would love to hear how fuck being humble first started.

**Stefanie Sword-Williams** (1:43)
So I worked in advertising for the first seven years of my career. And I was really loving my job and I was happy in it. But I kind of was feeling like I was lacking community, connection. I wanted my own creative autonomy on a project or something that I could have my own influence over and it not be dictated by client budgets or restraints or timings or things that everybody else was controlling.
And I'd always been known as like the career agony aunt in my friendship group because I moved jobs six times in seven years. Every time I didn't feel like I was being validated or appreciated, I'd be like, right, I'm moving on to the next place. And through that, it meant that I had to update my CV regularly, my portfolio regularly, I had to do interviews, I had to pitch. And because I worked in advertising, I was always good at storytelling and pitching ideas and pitching myself. So I think because I already knew that I was that person in my friendship group, I knew that I wanted something of my own that I could have a bit more creative expression around. And at the same time, I was attending loads of networking events and they were just a bit crap.
They weren't that great. It felt very name badge, very stuffy chats, very dry.
Kind of like exactly what everybody hates about networking events. And not only that was all the panelists and the people who were giving talks, presentations, I always joke they were male, pale and stale. So it's a very common term in the creative industry that it just didn't feel representative. I'd moved from up north down to London and I was wanting to see and meet people that were my age and doing interesting things and running side hustles. And instead, I was having to listen to people who were like plus 50, running their own companies, didn't connect with, maybe they had like, I don't know, private education or access to funding or like whatever it was. And I just felt like, why am I not seeing the really cool people that I'm meeting in and around London on these stages? And I kind of put two and two together that there were great people doing great things, but they weren't talking about it or they weren't pitching themselves or they weren't putting themselves forward. And likewise, event organizers weren't reaching out to younger talent and they weren't spotlighting emerging talent. And I kind of wanted to look at how I could bridge the gap between all of that. So it was a combination of like market research, what was missing in the industry, using my lived experience of what I knew I could do for other people. And then just really wanting that piece of my own, my community and group that I could create for myself. And that was sort of the journey of building it. And then it was, yeah, trying to think of a way to really disrupt the careers industry because for so long, it's been really generic and really boring messaging.